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On this episode of Ghost Hunters, Taps is in London.

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Home of the infamous killer, Jack the Ripper.

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Will the team find paranormal activity in the Hellfire Caves?

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The headquarters for an ancient secret satanic society.

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You've not done anything like this before.

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Not quite like this.

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Do the ghosts of former members

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still practice their evil rituals in these caves?

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That was crazy, didn't it? What'd you tell me?

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Or does a vengeful spirit walk through this macabre maze of tunnels?

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Shh.

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Did we hear that?

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There was somebody moving in there.

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And who runs the risk of getting lost in this underground labyrinth?

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Holy crap.

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I've never been in a place this forget dark.

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Then something was just standing there.

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What happens when Brian is forced to face one of his biggest fears?

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Hell, I'll run, I don't care.

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I'd rather face a hundred demons.

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It's just completely free.

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I'm starting to realize it's a real bad idea.

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Ooh, ooh, ooh.

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Welcome.

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What are you doing for the next few days?

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I think we're going to head out and check out the Hellfire Caves.

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The Hellfire Caves. OK, let's go.

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So Hellfire Caves, what do we know about this place?

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It sounds ominous.

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The caves themselves didn't come into effect until 1752.

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There is a Europe Taps family.

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The first time I've seen a Hellfire Caves,

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I've never seen a Hellfire Caves.

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I've never seen a Hellfire Caves.

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I've never seen a Hellfire Caves.

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I've never seen a Hellfire Caves.

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This is our Europe Taps family member

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and he's been investigating the paranormal for about 20 years.

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He's got a lot of local knowledge and really happy to have him on board.

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Sir Francis Dashwood had employed the local workers to carve out these chambers.

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What were they concerned before?

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There was a drought three years in a row

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to give the local workers a chance to stave off poverty.

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He employed them to carve these out

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and then these were used as a meeting point for the St. Francis Knights.

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That was their first name.

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They became known as the Years of Dawn, as the Hellfire Clubs.

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There were several around, but this particular club was famous

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because of the people that were associated with it.

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Politicians, there were poets,

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there were people of influential families.

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Benjamin Franklin also visited these particular clubs.

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He wasn't a member of this specific club,

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but he visited several times.

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But this was a society that didn't necessarily agree with what the church was doing

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and they had to meet secretly?

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Well, you have to understand that back then

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that anything that was deemed on Christian was mockery toward the church.

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Eventually there were various books that were being written

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that were mentioning what was going on within the Hellfire Clubs

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and people obviously within politics and things that couldn't be associated with these activities.

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It still happens today, very.

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At any rate, this place will be interesting to check out.

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There's a lot of reports of activity there, everything from

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what feeling like you're being watched to the sounds of furniture moving.

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What else?

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Just general noises.

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I'm psyched about doing this. I've never investigated keys before.

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Hellfire keys, I see you right there.

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How you doing, Teresa?

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Hello, yes.

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I'm Jason from TAPS.

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Hello.

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Hey, I'm Greg.

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Welcome to the Hellfire Caves.

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Can you give me a three-zip on it?

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Hello.

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We're going to start our tour today in heaven and we're going to finish it in hell in the caves.

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Can we do it the other way around?

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I'd really rather not do this.

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Sorry about that.

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We wanted TAPS to come to investigate the caves

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because we've had numerous customers come out and say they've seen things.

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We wanted some validation of the sightings that we've had in the caves.

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So now is this considered heaven up here?

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This is actually the mausoleum where the Dashwood family are buried.

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Behind that is a church with a golden ball on and that is cast as heaven.

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Paul Whitehead, who was steward of the Hellfire Club,

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was a great friend of Sir Francis Dashwood's in the 80th century.

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And he left £50 to him to buy an urn and to put his heart in the urn.

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The urn was put in the caves for safety.

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Is it still here?

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No.

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No. An Australian soldier stole the heart about 100 years later.

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Why?

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It seems a strange thing to do, doesn't it?

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Yeah.

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And now we're going to hell.

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Great.

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We're now entering hell, a quarter mile of man-made tunnels

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that were dug out in the 18th century.

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So it took 100 men six years to dig out these caves.

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Wow, it does.

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So we're now going to go down and we'll end up 300 feet below the church.

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Now this gentleman here shows that he's Paul Whitehead.

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And of course this is the urn that we talked about in the mausoleum

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that held the heart.

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Is that the actual one?

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That's the actual urn.

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Why would you steal a heart but leave the urn?

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I have no idea.

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Paul Whitehead walks the caves now looking for his heart.

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So he searches upstairs and downstairs.

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And downstairs.

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Through heaven and hell.

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Heaven and hell.

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We've had numerous sightings of a man dressed in 18th century

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costume walking through the caves, especially around this area.

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And we assume that's Paul Whitehead?

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We assume that's Paul Whitehead.

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So Francis had set up this club called the Hellfire Club.

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They were leading gentlemen and politicians of the day.

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They dressed up as monks.

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They came to the caves and they had parties.

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There's talk of debauchery, maybe a sacrifice or two even.

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We really don't know.

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Paul Whitehead actually burnt any information that there was about the caves

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before he died.

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We're now going down to the circle.

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But if you'd like to look on the walls here, you'll see there are

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carvings of demonic faces.

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These were carved by the mine workers in the 18th century.

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The area we're entering now is called the Banketing Hall.

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And this is where the Hellfire Club came and did their feasting.

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Has there been activity in this area?

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There has.

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There's numerous sightings of a lady dressed in white.

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Now why a lady down in a chalk line?

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A young girl, a chambermaid from the Georgian Dragon, a tavern in the village,

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arranged to meet her lover here and run away and marry him.

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He'd send her a letter to say, come dressed in your bride's dress.

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And when she got here, she found the letter had been sent by three local village boys.

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And she was so crossed with them when they turned up that she threw a stone.

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One retaliated and it hit her on the head and she collapsed

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and died here in the caves.

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I have heard sounds of distress down in the caves.

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It was a young woman.

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I was very aware of the crying of the...

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It wasn't just crying, it was screams as well.

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We're now coming up to two small caves that show the mine workers.

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And when I've stood here at previous times,

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I felt something touch the back of my head.

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Just lightly?

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Just lightly.

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And we've had customers come out and say to us,

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oh, I felt something touch the back of my head down by the mine.

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Just specifically the head?

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Just always the head.

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This is the end of the case.

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So we're a quarter of a mile down and 300 feet.

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We had a report from an elderly gentleman.

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He came up the case and he said that he was wondering about

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the caves and he saw his elderly man's, the man turned left.

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He got there and was going to follow him out

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because he thought this gentleman knew the way out.

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And he realised that there was actually a dead end to the person

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that just disappeared and he doesn't know where he went.

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This is the Hellfire Clubs in a temple

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where they did their satanic worship, witchcraft.

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Who knows what they did down there.

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So it was all done down here as a mockery to the church?

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As a mockery to the church.

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And of course you are 300 feet below the church and the churchyard.

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So we're talking hell here and heaven.

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That's a whole new can of worms.

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You've not done anything like this before?

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Not quite like this.

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Thank you very much.

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It's been a pleasure. Thank you for coming.

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After you please.

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Guys, we can expect to find the apparition of a woman in white.

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A man, a white head.

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You can expect to be touching the back of the head.

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You can have babies crying.

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There's a lot of claims of activity here.

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Really there is and it's all over the place.

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It's not really a selective area.

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You want to show me where the stuff goes so I can set the cameras to the look?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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The stories of hauntings are everything from seeing a woman in white

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to a man who walks up and down the halls looking for his heart.

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This is all chalk.

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It's all soft.

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There's a lot of different reports of things going on.

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I'm really hoping that we're able to catch something.

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Thanks. You're a little piece of England.

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Thank you.

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There seems to be a lot of off shots of things do go wrong.

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If we need to get out of here in a hurry, the last thing we need to do is get lost.

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Yeah.

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So we're going to have to be careful where we're setting this stuff up.

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I remember how to get back out.

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We are here.

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You're down beneath the church, deep in the earth.

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People are doing just crazy things and that makes you wonder what kind of energy could be left here.

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Not only do you have that energy down here, but right above it you've got a church

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where people are trying to do everything right.

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And I don't know if there's going to be some kind of reaction between the positive feelings of the church

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and the negative feelings down here.

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Hey.

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How are we doing?

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We're all set up.

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As you can see, you've got the four cameras set up.

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Camera one is around the bend and down the hallway.

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So what is the real mistake right there?

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Camera two, obviously. You're looking at it.

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And camera three is with the triangle.

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Yeah, right as you go around the triangle.

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And then camera four is in that, the alcohol right there.

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Yeah.

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There's probably nothing to the top.

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Let's get lights out.

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All right, let's do this.

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Got many DV and I got three quarters.

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Yeah, I got audio too with us, so we're going in to get it.

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All right, so you guys take from here up to the front, me and Grant take from here back.

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No, swap.

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All right, cool.

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I'm actually going to walk it and then I'll come back and grab the thermal.

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All right, guys, be safe. Watch your heads.

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All right, we'll do.

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All right, Tango, let's go to the front half.

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All right, where is the front half?

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I think it's this way.

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This is right here? No.

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There it is.

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All right, right here.

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So we started out the investigation by having Brian and Tango up near the entrance of the caves.

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We had Barry setting up some of his equipment right in the middle.

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And Jay and I headed down into the deeper sections.

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All right, Jay, Grant, go fire caves heading down towards the temple.

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Holy crap.

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Can we go first?

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No, it's just wicked dark.

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Well, we know it's a tunnel, so you can see the ceiling, you know, you want it in your head.

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This is awesome.

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Dude, this is what it's all about.

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I tell you, man, it's really cool.

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This place, I've never been in a place this friggin' dark.

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It's friggin' dark.

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I can't see a blade.

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You can't even with the lights.

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You can't see but like a foot in front of you.

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It's like the coolest feeling in the world.

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00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:25,300
Oh, I love it.

256
00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:28,300
But definitely, I can see why people would be able to freak themselves out of here.

257
00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,300
Oh crap, yeah.

258
00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:32,300
It is.

259
00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,300
Should we move on?

260
00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:36,300
Sure.

261
00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,300
Well, I'm back cake. Let's do this.

262
00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:49,300
It's a back cake.

263
00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:57,320
It's a fruitcake and a batty person mixed together.

264
00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,320
Batty person?

265
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,320
Watch your head. Thank you.

266
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,320
What's a batty person?

267
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,320
I don't know, you're going batty?

268
00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320
I guess this is where the lady and white scene is.

269
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,320
Really?

270
00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,320
This corner here?

271
00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,320
This is the tango and brine in the Hellfire Caves in the white lady corner area.

272
00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,320
Alright, let's do some EVPs.

273
00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:19,340
Glad to.

274
00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:21,340
Who's here with us right now? Anyone?

275
00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:23,340
Is there a lady here with us who wears white?

276
00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:32,340
It's just weird that this pillar is holding up this whole area.

277
00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:34,340
It's chalk.

278
00:12:34,340 --> 00:12:36,340
I've never seen someone with chalk in my life.

279
00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:38,340
It's school.

280
00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:40,340
Even school had nothing like this.

281
00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:42,340
And it's not just chalk that's holding everything up.

282
00:12:42,340 --> 00:12:44,340
I mean, I'm sure there's other elements in here.

283
00:12:44,340 --> 00:12:46,340
Oh, that's pretty good.

284
00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360
Crazy day, how old are you today, man?

285
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,360
I know. I did it right underneath the chapel to the church.

286
00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,360
53.7.

287
00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360
54.2.

288
00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360
As we walked down and through chambers,

289
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,360
I noticed that there is a difference in temperature there that

290
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,360
I'm not quite sure what is actually going on.

291
00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:18,380
Some paranormal investigators believe that cold spots are an indication

292
00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:21,380
of spirit activity that they're manifesting themselves

293
00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:23,380
by drawing the energy out of the air.

294
00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:25,380
And that's the theory.

295
00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:27,380
And what we do is use a lot of scientific equipment

296
00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:31,380
to study the cold spots, see if there's any intelligence to the movement.

297
00:13:35,380 --> 00:13:37,380
Alright, which way do you want to go?

298
00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:40,380
Uh, I think it doesn't matter.

299
00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:42,380
We're going to the right thing.

300
00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:44,380
Yeah.

301
00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:47,380
Shh.

302
00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:49,380
Did you hear that?

303
00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:51,380
Somebody was just standing there.

304
00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:53,380
Were you saw something?

305
00:13:53,380 --> 00:13:55,380
Yeah, that's why I was like, no, I heard something.

306
00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:57,380
Somebody was just standing there, dude.

307
00:13:57,380 --> 00:13:59,380
Let's go this way, man.

308
00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:11,380
It's so dark.

309
00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:17,380
Where are we?

310
00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:21,380
What is that?

311
00:14:23,380 --> 00:14:25,380
You see that right there to the right?

312
00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:27,380
Where is it?

313
00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:31,380
Oh, the light.

314
00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:33,380
Oh, it's a light.

315
00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:47,380
I think it's the end of it.

316
00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:49,380
My biggest fear right now is like we're ending you.

317
00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:51,380
I think that would be really uncomfortable.

318
00:14:51,380 --> 00:14:53,380
It wouldn't be good for you to rest.

319
00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:55,380
We grabbed the thermal camera from Command Central

320
00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:57,380
and got set up to go out on a sweep.

321
00:14:57,380 --> 00:14:59,380
Can you hear water dripping all the way up, please?

322
00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:01,380
Yeah, I know.

323
00:15:01,380 --> 00:15:03,380
I bet you other people in Vesca here probably think that's rocks.

324
00:15:03,380 --> 00:15:05,380
The sound of those rocks being thrown.

325
00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:07,380
It does give off a similar sound.

326
00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:09,380
Another thing that's happening tonight is

327
00:15:09,380 --> 00:15:11,380
you can see your own breath.

328
00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:13,380
See that?

329
00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:14,380
Yeah.

330
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,400
So people are taking pictures.

331
00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,400
They catch mist, ectoplasmic mist and everything.

332
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400
All right, I'm going to record.

333
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,400
You ready for it? Yeah.

334
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,400
Here's another one, huh?

335
00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,400
What the hell is in that room in there?

336
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,400
Look.

337
00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,400
There's something in there.

338
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,400
Where is this?

339
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400
It's just residual heat from the wax mannequin.

340
00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,400
And you can see our somewhere equipment behind it.

341
00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,400
Guys?

342
00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,400
Hey.

343
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400
Is there somebody down here?

344
00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,400
What's up?

345
00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,400
There's somebody moving in there.

346
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,400
Guys?

347
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,400
Is there somebody down here?

348
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,400
We set up the thermal in the temple area

349
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,400
and a few minutes later we ran into Barry in the tunnels.

350
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,400
I guess he had seen something.

351
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,400
What's up?

352
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,400
There's somebody moving in there.

353
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400
Just caught in the light.

354
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400
Did it move out of the light?

355
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,400
Yeah, it moved across from the right to the left.

356
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,400
Well, if it crossed in front of here,

357
00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:44,420
it would have gone down to the right.

358
00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:46,420
It's down to the right of the tunnel.

359
00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:48,420
It's down to the right of the tunnel, right?

360
00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:50,420
Yeah, it will.

361
00:16:50,420 --> 00:16:52,420
Do you want to check it?

362
00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:54,420
Go right ahead.

363
00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:56,420
I hope we set up a nice trap.

364
00:16:56,420 --> 00:16:58,420
The thermal was set up about 40 or 50 feet down the tunnel

365
00:16:58,420 --> 00:17:00,420
from where Barry thought he had seen the shadow.

366
00:17:00,420 --> 00:17:02,420
And we'd hoped we'd see it on a playback.

367
00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:06,420
So something moved in here and it had to move?

368
00:17:06,420 --> 00:17:08,420
Beyond the...

369
00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:10,420
The thermal.

370
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,440
I thought that would have been a great trap.

371
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,440
But the thermal didn't pick anything up.

372
00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,440
It might have been too far away or maybe even what Barry thinks he saw

373
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,440
didn't have a heat signature at all.

374
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,440
This place is getting... honestly, man,

375
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,440
it's a little more creepy here in here.

376
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,440
Do you agree? Oh, I agree. I really agree.

377
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,440
I don't even like this part. I want to get out of here.

378
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,440
Hey, man, I guess this is where they get to hit in the back of the head.

379
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,440
Really?

380
00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:42,460
I got my camera and I'm willing to get hit in the back of the head of a ghost.

381
00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:45,460
Me and Tango went up to the upper part of the cave system

382
00:17:45,460 --> 00:17:49,460
next to Mr. Whitehead's little area where he's supposed to be seen

383
00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:51,460
and where the white lady is supposed to be seen.

384
00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:53,460
I would do some EVP work.

385
00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:55,460
Do you like hitting people in the back of the heads?

386
00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:57,460
And why? Why do you do that?

387
00:18:03,460 --> 00:18:06,460
Mr. Whitehead, are you here? Are you looking for your heart?

388
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,480
Can you smack me in the back of the head?

389
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,480
That'd be much appreciated.

390
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,480
I think I got balls to do it.

391
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,480
Maybe we should provoke it a little bit.

392
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,480
I agree.

393
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,480
The English suck.

394
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,480
That'll provoke. That's provoking.

395
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480
It definitely is provoking.

396
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,480
You guys got worse teeth than I do.

397
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,480
A lot of times we try to provoke a spirit.

398
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,480
The main reason we try to provoke the spirit is we want it to manifest itself

399
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:37,500
to show itself to move an object

400
00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:39,500
to do something to help solidify the client's claims

401
00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,500
that they have something going on there.

402
00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:43,500
So who's here with us?

403
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,500
Hey, Whitehead, are you looking for your heart?

404
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,500
Mr. Whitehead.

405
00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,500
They're all playing polo.

406
00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:52,500
Polo.

407
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,500
Hello?

408
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,500
Mr. Whitehead, are you here?

409
00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:02,500
Or is there a lady in white here with us too?

410
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,500
Who's that?

411
00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:11,500
Barry.

412
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,500
I just want to get to the top.

413
00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:15,500
Did something happen?

414
00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:17,500
Get some water.

415
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:19,500
What happened?

416
00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:21,500
There's a lot of noises going on down there.

417
00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:23,500
From the main chamber down,

418
00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:25,500
it's just completely freaky.

419
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,500
I haven't seen a place like that in a long time.

420
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,500
I had to come back up again, get some water,

421
00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,500
get some fresh air,

422
00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,500
and ready to go.

423
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,520
And just get a wee break from it.

424
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,520
It is the weirdest place.

425
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520
I don't know why people would get a ghost.

426
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,520
I really don't.

427
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,520
Because people are really afraid of what they don't understand.

428
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,520
You know, and that's what we're trying to do for them.

429
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,520
You know what I mean?

430
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,520
We're trying to help them understand what it is.

431
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520
Do you hear that?

432
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520
We sat there for a little while and we heard a moan.

433
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520
What the hell?

434
00:20:01,540 --> 00:20:03,540
What the hell?

435
00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:13,540
And as we started investigating it,

436
00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:15,540
I heard a voice from down inside the tunnel.

437
00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,540
So I took off right after the voice

438
00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:19,540
because I wanted to find if there's anything paranormal.

439
00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,540
Hello?

440
00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:33,540
Is there anybody there?

441
00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:43,540
I know for myself I heard the noise

442
00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:45,540
and I know I heard the voices.

443
00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:47,540
So there was something over there watching us.

444
00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:49,540
I sounded more like a female voice than anything else.

445
00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,540
I didn't hear a female voice.

446
00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:53,540
I heard something.

447
00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:55,540
It would have sounded to you.

448
00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:57,540
It sounded like a groan or something.

449
00:20:57,540 --> 00:20:59,540
Yeah.

450
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560
Let's see what happens again.

451
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,560
Now, why the hell?

452
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,560
This place makes no sense.

453
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,560
Why would you build it like this?

454
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,560
If you look at the whole thing up and down like that,

455
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,560
you know, that's a phallus and a symbol of a male.

456
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,560
Yeah, and then you're talking about the female.

457
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,560
You got the womb.

458
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560
This symbol means a woman.

459
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,560
Yeah, and then you've got what appears to be a child

460
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,560
if you think about it.

461
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560
Sure. Coming out head first like they do.

462
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,560
Boom.

463
00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:29,580
I wonder what this stuff means, then.

464
00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:33,580
Now, you want to see what the other guys are doing?

465
00:21:33,580 --> 00:21:36,580
Yeah, I'm betting they're walking through a cave of chalk.

466
00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:38,580
It's probably a good guess.

467
00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:42,580
I want to concentrate some of my efforts now

468
00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:45,580
on this passageway that leads towards the inner temple.

469
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,600
Whoa, did you see that?

470
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,600
What?

471
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600
Something just moved in front of us.

472
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,600
That was freaking crazy.

473
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,600
Barry and I were in the tunnel that leads to the inner temple.

474
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,600
When I saw a shadow move across the corridor.

475
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,600
Let's go down here and see if that thing moved again.

476
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,600
That's creepy.

477
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,600
What about here?

478
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600
See, this is where I'd seen that other thing before.

479
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,600
Yeah.

480
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600
Now, it moved from the right to the left.

481
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,600
Yeah, and then it moved from the right.

482
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,600
Yeah, and then it moved from the left.

483
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:15,620
Yeah.

484
00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:17,620
Now, it moved from the right across to the left.

485
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,620
Okay.

486
00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:21,620
I saw something moving almost exactly the same location as Barry saw movement before.

487
00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:23,620
What was that?

488
00:22:23,620 --> 00:22:25,620
I don't know.

489
00:22:31,620 --> 00:22:33,620
What the hell was that?

490
00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:37,620
Dude, something was just standing there.

491
00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:41,620
I put this thing on, I saw it was like a leg,

492
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,640
and then it was gone.

493
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,640
Certainly once you cross this particular doorway,

494
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,640
and the moment it starts to get deeper and deeper,

495
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,640
that's when something changes down there.

496
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,640
The atmosphere changes.

497
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,640
It's pure black in there.

498
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,640
It came and penetrated inside the...

499
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,640
Hello?

500
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,640
Anybody there?

501
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,640
Is that it?

502
00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:12,660
Yep.

503
00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:14,660
Hello?

504
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:17,660
Getting closer to the end of the temple meant going through whatever it was we were seeing.

505
00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:20,660
I think make a B lane straight for the door.

506
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,660
Don't get in my way.

507
00:23:22,660 --> 00:23:24,660
Come on, I got your back, man. Go ahead.

508
00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:26,660
It's starting to realize it's a really bad idea.

509
00:23:36,660 --> 00:23:39,660
Me and Barry are investigating what they call the end of the temple.

510
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,680
And what it is, it was the temple where they had all their parties.

511
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,680
There's something moving in here, the only way to...

512
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,680
I know there's something moving there, I see it.

513
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,680
We're freaking stupid.

514
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,680
It's starting to realize it's a real bad idea.

515
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Oh, wait.

516
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,680
Now, when you go in there, there's a lot of mannequins.

517
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,680
There's about eight or nine mannequins in there.

518
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,680
I really don't like mannequins and dolls.

519
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,680
It's one of my phobias.

520
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680
It's just... I've heard too many paranormal stories of dolls moving.

521
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:08,700
It's a really bad idea to...

522
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,700
I...

523
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,700
There's something in there that doesn't want us in there.

524
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:14,700
Yep.

525
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:16,700
Hello?

526
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,700
It's like they're inviting us in. You know what I mean?

527
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:24,700
No.

528
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,700
Now, we go to the right.

529
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:31,700
Alright, you go to the right.

530
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:33,700
I'm going to the left.

531
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:35,700
God almighty.

532
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Oh, man, this is freaking me out, dude.

533
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Just gotta chill.

534
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Anybody here?

535
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,720
Why don't you come out and show yourself?

536
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,720
I'd rather face a hundred demons in a row than have to face a doll moving.

537
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
It's just something I do, and now I'll run, I don't care.

538
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Just get me out of the room as fast as possible and do a safe area and I'll be happy.

539
00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:04,740
I'm just gonna ask this, but...

540
00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:06,740
Can you move one of the mannequins?

541
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:08,740
I don't know, God, I don't know.

542
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:16,740
Can you swing the light?

543
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,740
Hey, hey, hey.

544
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:28,740
You moved the monkey?

545
00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,740
No. The monkey just moved by itself?

546
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760
No, keep going, keep going, keep telling me.

547
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,760
That was the best she got, I ain't impressed.

548
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:43,760
And when I provoked it, the monkey baboon thing on the barrel moved and Barry said he didn't touch it, so...

549
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760
So you didn't touch that monkey?

550
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,760
No.

551
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760
Is there anybody here?

552
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,760
I feel as if I want to...

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,760
God, damn, damn, things are seriously freaking me out.

554
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760
Dude, not even a question, man.

555
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,760
I almost get the impression there's something hiding behind the back.

556
00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:02,780
I'm afraid if I go in round to the back, that means I'm cornered from the door.

557
00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:04,780
Yeah, exactly.

558
00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:08,780
You moving?

559
00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:11,780
Brian, I'm just not comfortable with this whole situation.

560
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:13,780
Yeah, where are you?

561
00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:15,780
One way in, one way out.

562
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:18,780
I just don't feel good in here.

563
00:26:18,780 --> 00:26:19,780
No.

564
00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:21,780
Like, I feel achy.

565
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:23,780
There's a lot of memory with this place.

566
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:25,780
A lot of bad memory.

567
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800
Let's back up on out of here.

568
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Okay, yeah, back up and on to this place.

569
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Being in that temple was just an uncomfortable experience, so we did our time and got the hell out of there.

570
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,800
Okay, keep up.

571
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,800
I'll keep up, don't you worry about that.

572
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,800
That's what you guys think?

573
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,800
There was movement with the pot with the baboon in it.

574
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,800
But it's not like that gets moved around every day.

575
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,800
No, it's not, no.

576
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,800
No, absolutely not.

577
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800
And we heard a noise from that scene.

578
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,800
Absolutely.

579
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:58,820
Brian and I, we heard something and went to go chase it and see what was going on.

580
00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:00,820
But I went away, whatever it was.

581
00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,820
Well, we should probably just wrap up the call tonight.

582
00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:04,820
You guys just ready?

583
00:27:04,820 --> 00:27:05,820
Yeah.

584
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:06,820
Yeah.

585
00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:07,820
Alright, let's do it.

586
00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:08,820
Alright, let's do it.

587
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:09,820
Alright, let's do it.

588
00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:14,820
It's been an interesting night.

589
00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:18,820
I know that a couple people had some personal experiences.

590
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:22,820
People heard voices distant, or heard sounds distant.

591
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,840
And people thought they saw things in a pretty much dark place.

592
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840
But we gotta hope that that's backed up by evidence.

593
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Teresa, thank you very much for having us.

594
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,840
It's been a wonderful experience.

595
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,840
That's good, I'm glad you...

596
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,840
And what we're gonna do is we're gonna go over the evidence over the next couple days

597
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840
and come back, sit down with you, tell you what we caught, what we didn't catch.

598
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:52,860
Okay, that'll be really interesting.

599
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:53,860
Thanks very much guys.

600
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:54,860
Have some sleep, okay?

601
00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:55,860
I'll try to, thank you.

602
00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:56,860
Hey, thank you.

603
00:27:56,860 --> 00:27:57,860
Good night.

604
00:27:57,860 --> 00:28:01,860
It's been a long night and I've no idea how the investigation went.

605
00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,860
But I hope that TAP's got something worthwhile down there.

606
00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:07,860
And I hope to goodness that it's been worth it.

607
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Music

608
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,880
Being ghost hunters, we're always interested in the macabre.

609
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,880
So while we're in London, we couldn't pass up a once in the lifetime opportunity

610
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,880
to do a tour of Jack the Ripper's haunts.

611
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,880
Hi Andy.

612
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,880
Hello.

613
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,880
How you doing? I'm Jason.

614
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,880
Not too bad, nice to meet you.

615
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,880
How you doing?

616
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Not too bad at all.

617
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880
I understand you want to know about Jack the Ripper.

618
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,880
Yes.

619
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:37,900
How are you going to talk to her?

620
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:39,900
Well, this road today is called Derwood Street.

621
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:41,900
Back in 1888, it was called Buck's Row

622
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,900
and it's the site of the first Ripper victim.

623
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:46,900
The policeman sure was laying on the ground and there was a woman.

624
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:48,900
The throat slit and she was dead.

625
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,900
She'd been cut right up to the breastplane

626
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:52,900
and cut twice across the side

627
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:54,900
and her intestines were sticking out of the wound.

628
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:03,900
You are standing on the spot where the victim was found.

629
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,900
She had her throat slit very deeply across

630
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,920
almost as if to try and cut the head off.

631
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,920
Clothing had been pulled up and intestines had been taken out

632
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,920
and dumped over her right shoulder

633
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920
and various other organs had been hacked to pieces.

634
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920
In fact, two organs were found to be missing

635
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,920
when they actually examined the body back of the mortuary.

636
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
I can't imagine doing all that, pulling the guts out and everything.

637
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
That Jack the Ripper tour was very hard for me to get through.

638
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920
It was just disgusting and gruesome

639
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,920
and I don't like to hear that stuff, you know, and I had it done.

640
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,940
I heard that they believe it was a hairdresser.

641
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,940
He's probably the most likely suspect.

642
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:40,940
What you've got with this kind of killer is they're not going to stop

643
00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:42,940
unless they're incarcerated or dead.

644
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:44,940
And because Minsky fits, he goes into an asylum

645
00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:47,940
fairly soon after the murders and they seem to stop.

646
00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:49,940
So where to now?

647
00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:51,940
I shall take you now to the last murder, the fifth one,

648
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:53,940
which is the bloodiest.

649
00:29:56,940 --> 00:29:59,940
This spot was an entranceway to what was called Miller's Court.

650
00:29:59,940 --> 00:30:01,940
And as you'd walk in, you'd find a small number of rooms

651
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
around the site, so individual let-out.

652
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960
And one on your immediate right was led to Mary Jane Kelly.

653
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
This time, he was inside, he had a building, he was in a room.

654
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960
My little town.

655
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
All the time in the world, exactly.

656
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960
Basically, all the flesh had been stripped from the face,

657
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
completely cut off, her eyes had been taken out.

658
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960
She had all the flesh stripped off of her chest,

659
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960
breasts all removed.

660
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,960
One was on the table, one was between her legs.

661
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,960
Her legs just splayed open, everything from this region

662
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,960
was completely removed, gone.

663
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,960
One leg was stripped right down to the thigh bone completely.

664
00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:31,960
End trails and body parts left,

665
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,960
langed around the room.

666
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,960
Her heart was completely missing.

667
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,960
I want to say thank you very much for your time.

668
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,960
No problem, sir.

669
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Greatly appreciate it.

670
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,960
Andy gave us a pretty detailed tour of the Jack the Ripper murders.

671
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960
And I had known a lot of the history prior to this.

672
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,960
And, you know, it's just a gruesome thing.

673
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Those ladies lost their lives

674
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960
in just a vicious, vicious way.

675
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,960
Me and Tango are going to sit down right now

676
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960
and do the analysis for the Hellfire Caves.

677
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,960
All right, Tango, right?

678
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960
All right.

679
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Let's get this stuff done.

680
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,960
Well, remember, Tango, when we were together up on the top

681
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,960
with both the banquet hall, we heard that noise.

682
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Yeah.

683
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Sounded like a female and a male.

684
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Let's see if you can find out on your new DV.

685
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960
Also, I'm going to look at the DVR when we're in a temple

686
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,960
and we see all the shadows moving around like me

687
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
and Barry at the end of the night.

688
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960
And then Jason Grant today saw a couple things.

689
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960
All right, cool.

690
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Hmm.

691
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,960
Ryan.

692
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960
What's that, dude?

693
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,960
I saw a missed thing.

694
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Okay.

695
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960
I can't see.

696
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960
That's all right. It's just blurry.

697
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,960
It's blurry on there.

698
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,960
See that?

699
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960
It could have been your...

700
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,960
It's coming from my shoulders up.

701
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960
That's true. And it just rises.

702
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960
All right. See, that's breath two right there.

703
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,960
That's a lot of breath.

704
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Yeah, I don't know. That might not be breath.

705
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Yeah.

706
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,960
All right, we got the EVPs. Let's check it out, man.

707
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960
That's weird, man. That's not a nice sounding...

708
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Whatever it is.

709
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Here is another one.

710
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
That's weird. That is definitely a male voice.

711
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Oh, yeah, it definitely is.

712
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960
Here's the next one here. Okay, here we go. Ready?

713
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Last one.

714
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Oh, I heard that.

715
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,960
I heard that.

716
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,960
We're actually here to talk to you.

717
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Yeah.

718
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's awesome.

719
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,960
It's like having a conversation. That is awesome.

720
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,960
That is definitely a keeper.

721
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Yeah.

722
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Dude, dude, dude, dude.

723
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Dude, I don't know what the hell this is.

724
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,960
What? What? What? What? What? What?

725
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Seriously, now watch. Let me go back.

726
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Remember when we were up on the top and Jason and Grant come up after us after Barry?

727
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Yeah.

728
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,960
And there's nobody down in the lower part of the banquet hall?

729
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Right. Check this out.

730
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Whatever it is, comes out of the inner temple.

731
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,960
You're kidding me. I swear to God, dude.

732
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,960
What?

733
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960
All right, guys.

734
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960
Now, I guess I have a lot of stuff to show you.

735
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960
It's a big plus.

736
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Yeah, so I'm going to show you this one real quick first.

737
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Just me and Brian walking in the area of the cave.

738
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960
You can see him.

739
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Then look to the right of his shoulder.

740
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960
That's a lot of breath and you would have heard Tango's go.

741
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960
Play it again.

742
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960
Yeah.

743
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Because it almost looked like it came towards the camera.

744
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960
I would have to say for safety's sake that that's just breath.

745
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,960
Tough call because if you're holding the camera like this...

746
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,960
It could come in at the camera.

747
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Yeah.

748
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Well, that's a problem in a lot of groups. They mistakenly call breath.

749
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Yeah, exactly.

750
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960
We've also got EVPs.

751
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Oh, yeah.

752
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960
So what do we got?

753
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960
Ready?

754
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Hello.

755
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Yeah, it sounds like it's saying hello.

756
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
This is another one.

757
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960
It sounds like there's two voices.

758
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Yeah, da-da-da-da-da.

759
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960
And then, you know, like a whisper.

760
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960
I hear that, but I can't make it out.

761
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Alright, this is the next one.

762
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,960
In this area, you're going to hear what sounds like a voice.

763
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Listen, go ahead.

764
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
You can actually hear it talking.

765
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Yeah, really light voice.

766
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,960
Some of the crew probably said something and she's trying to communicate with them.

767
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,960
We can't tell what the heck they're saying.

768
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Alright, now we've got the grand finale.

769
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Remember when Barry ran out and then we were above the banquet hall in those caves and you guys came up?

770
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Yes.

771
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,960
We talked for a while and you said, okay, you guys go head down.

772
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,960
This is when this happened. Where are we?

773
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960
Right.

774
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960
This is the inner temple. I accounted for the camera crew, accounted for you guys.

775
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960
There's nobody down there.

776
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Let me know what you think about it.

777
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Wow, look at that.

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,960
This is what got me. See how it pulsates?

779
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
That just leaves me scratching my head.

780
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,960
How you doing, Teresa?

781
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960
I'm good, thank you. How are you?

782
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,960
How you been the last few days?

783
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,960
Waiting in anticipation.

784
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,960
Well, you know what we did? We came in, we heard the claims of activity, a lot of the experiences within the caves.

785
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Then we ended up setting up all our equipment, everything from digital recorders to zero lux cameras to see in total darkness.

786
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,960
And we let it run and periodically different teams went in and performed an investigation.

787
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Now what we're looking for in particular was any signs of Paul Whitehead or the woman.

788
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
And pretty much just any activity in general.

789
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,960
And we had quite a few personal experiences.

790
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Teaching.

791
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Before we even reviewed any evidence.

792
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:53,960
Yeah, that night Barry, one of our investigators, witnessed what appeared to be a person walked by the doorway at the far end in the temple area.

793
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Went down there, there was nobody in there.

794
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,960
Me and Grant were walking pretty much right at the tip of the triangle.

795
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,960
And we both had witnessed what appeared to be a shadow move on our right hand side.

796
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960
We didn't see anything.

797
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,960
That's a real exciting news for us.

798
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,960
During the night me and Grant tried to debunk some of the claims of activity in the place.

799
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:19,960
When it came down to the sounds of rocks hitting the gate, the rocks have a tendency to get stuck in the areas of your sneakers and shoes.

800
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960
And as you're walking they get kicked up.

801
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Right, and there was also the fact that while you're standing there, there are pieces of the ceiling actually come down here and there.

802
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960
You know, pieces of chalk.

803
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960
There was a potential reason why someone would hear rocks.

804
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960
So I've been stood there and you feel a drip on your head.

805
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,960
And it could be misinterpreted that it's a touch.

806
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,960
As far as the apparitions, pretty much all we experience is as you're walking through the tunnels and it's really dark,

807
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,960
any time there's an alcove, you feel that change in air and you think maybe someone's there or whatever.

808
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
And that can lead to that feeling of being watched.

809
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
You do get a cold spot almost, don't you?

810
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Yeah.

811
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,960
But when it came down to the experiences in the caves, we had thought we had heard something that night.

812
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,960
And we did catch a few different sounds that we'd like to play for you and get your impressions of.

813
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,960
That would be really interesting.

814
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960
These were actually caught in the inner temple.

815
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Wow.

816
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,960
That sounds really, really like a male voice.

817
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960
But what is trying to tell us?

818
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,960
No idea.

819
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,960
There's actually a couple more we'd like you to hear.

820
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
It sounds very sinister, doesn't it?

821
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,960
A lot of times it's just trying to communicate.

822
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,960
I'm not going to get any of my staff down in the inner temple, you know that now.

823
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,960
That's why it's locked, right?

824
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
That's why it's locked.

825
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,960
What you're going to hear is some of the crew talking and then you'll hear a voice interlace with it.

826
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960
I do hear a little voice down in there.

827
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,960
I can't hear it.

828
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,960
Did you hear that?

829
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,960
I heard that.

830
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,960
I heard that.

831
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,960
I heard that.

832
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,960
I heard that.

833
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,960
I heard that.

834
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,960
I heard that.

835
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,960
I heard that.

836
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960
I heard that.

837
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,960
I heard that.

838
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Did you hear that?

839
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,960
I heard that.

840
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960
We'll highlight that area and loop it for you.

841
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960
You can almost hear that as a female voice, can't you?

842
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,960
It definitely sounds female and it definitely sounds like she's saying a sentence.

843
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,960
It's not clear what she's saying.

844
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,960
We don't know what any of them are saying, but whoever's in there, if anything's in there,

845
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,960
it certainly has a lot to say.

846
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,960
Definitely.

847
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,960
This is what we caught for audio.

848
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,960
Moving on, we caught a good piece of video.

849
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,960
You've got something visual as well.

850
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,960
This is feeding into the temple.

851
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Now, the guys watched all the footage leading up to this point and all the footage leading after this point.

852
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,960
At this exact time, nobody's in this tunnel.

853
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Nobody's in the temple area.

854
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,960
We just had a camera set.

855
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,960
Yes.

856
00:39:49,960 --> 00:40:01,960
It's definitely getting bigger, isn't it?

857
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960
See if it's coming towards you.

858
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,960
You can see that it's giving off so much light that it's reflecting all the way up there.

859
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,960
My first impression, that's a flashlight.

860
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,960
But thank goodness this was placed in an area where one way and one way out.

861
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,960
I know we investigated the paranormal, but we're very logical minded and looking at that, the wheel screeched the hall.

862
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
But the thing is, nobody was there.

863
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,960
I actually have seen a light on the wall at that point.

864
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Down in the temple?

865
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Yes, just up from there.

866
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,960
So you've experienced this?

867
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,960
I have, yes.

868
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Whoa, so you didn't tell us this?

869
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,960
I thought I was imagining things.

870
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,960
And nobody was down there?

871
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Nobody was down there.

872
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,960
I was the only one down there.

873
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,960
I was down by the inner temple and I looked up the tunnel and there was a light on the wall where I knew one of our lights wasn't.

874
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,960
And I stood back and looked and as I walked up the tunnel it disappeared.

875
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,960
That makes this a whole lot more meaningful.

876
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,960
I want you to understand the only lights that we were using were those little lights that barely give off a red glow.

877
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,960
The guys were able to compare the light from those to that and that you can't even really tell they're on on this thing.

878
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,960
Yeah, definitely.

879
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,960
When it comes down to it, I believe that you have paranormal activity here.

880
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,960
I believe the place is haunted.

881
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960
I would love to spend more time here.

882
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,960
We just, of course, we don't have a time, but I'd love an open door to come back in the future.

883
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,960
And we'd love to have you back.

884
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960
Likewise, come to the States.

885
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,960
Thanks very much.

886
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,960
I definitely will.

887
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Thank you.

888
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:32,960
When I saw the light and the evidence, I was really pleased because you always wonder, are you imagining things when you see things like that?

889
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,960
And you don't know how far your imagination stretches when you're by yourself down in a cave.

890
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,960
So for somebody else to have that experience, it validated what I saw.

891
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,960
That was awesome. She had that personal experience.

892
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,960
That was pretty much the last thing we needed is independent verification of that kind of thing happened.

893
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960
And she laid it down for us.

894
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Throughout the night, it seemed to have different feels to it. Most of the time it felt pretty comfortable.

895
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,960
But there were times when you just had heightened sense, just like, had to watch your back.

896
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,960
All the personal experiences, all the evidence that was gathered, ours and Barry's, I think the case was worth it.

897
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,960
I think this whole trip was worth it.

898
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Yeah, England treated us pretty well.

899
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,960
You know, when it comes down to it, England's been a great place to visit, but New England's my home. Good job.

900
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,960
On the next episode of Ghost Hunters, Taps responds to an urgent plea from a local homeowner.

901
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960
It's very important for me to get some answers.

902
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Can Jason and Grant discover the truth?

903
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Jesus.

904
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,960
Then Taps rushes to aid a family in their Massachusetts home.

905
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,960
Did you see their footsteps?

906
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Yes.

907
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Their faucet just turned out of the bathroom.

908
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
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